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moocpu
hey i was just woundering if anyone has managed to get online with longhorn ive been at it now for days but just can seem to connect...if you did manage to get online can you tell me how, or prehaps the isp that you use...i just wanted to make a refrence incase i wanted to change my isp
to other than the AOL im using now...and if by chance you use aol, which ver. works with longhorn
8.0,ect... sad.gif ermm.gif
PcH
Don't even try in BETA stages. laugh.gif
ImSkiZZer
I don't know.... it worked super for me.....
I just made a dialup connection for my DSL account and that was that...
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Intel Inside
Try getting Windows XP Compatible drivers for your modem(s) wink2.gif
Sim31
What? Aol? Aol and longhorn meet together i see lol tongue.gif
al11588
aol 2.0 to aol 5.0 works but if u have aol dsl it wont work or with aol cable. i had to change my isp to let lh work and it was fine. But when u sign on aol on lh there is an error and it will crash. But if i was u i would change my isp. I used to beta test aol and when i tried to install on lh it had alot of problems.
moocpu
im using aol dsl...do you know of any xp compatible drivers for the actiontec home dsl modem that will work with longhorn
and skizzler how did you create a dail up for dsl???never heard of that...if you can ,tell me how...
Quantum Topology
yeah, it detected my Local Area Connection right away and I did an automatic driver search, which yes included all my drivers on xp and it worked fine. I don't have sound though.
Big Booger
AOL blows like a lot lizard on a sausage dog.
Chris123NT
QUOTE (Big Booger @ Apr 15 2003, 13:10)
AOL blows like a lot lizard on a sausage dog.

LMAO!!! So true.... tongue.gif
tem
just so u know, dont even try aol on longhorn. i did and it either freezed, or crashed. i tryed diffrent capability settings and it didn't help much so..
Taco Bell
QUOTE (tem @ Apr 15 2003, 20:25)
just so u know, dont even try aol on longhorn. i did and it either freezed, or crashed. i tryed diffrent capability settings and it didn't help much so..

Yellow! I had to select the text, so I could actually read that response. rolleyes.gif
tem
QUOTE (Taco Bell @ Apr 15 2003, 19:32)
QUOTE (tem @ Apr 15 2003, 20:25)
just so u know, dont even try aol on longhorn. i did and it either freezed, or crashed. i tryed diffrent capability settings and it didn't help much so..

Yellow! I had to select the text, so I could actually read that response. rolleyes.gif

sorry dude, i was updating my profile and stuff.
Merkava
nice font tem...try aols new HAWAII version maybe? hey u never know?
tem
QUOTE (Merkava @ Apr 15 2003, 19:34)
nice font tem...try aols new HAWAII version maybe? hey u never know?

lmao...i doubt hawaii would even work. :|
Nightwind Hawk
QUOTE (Big Booger @ Apr 15 2003, 05:10)
AOL blows like a lot lizard on a sausage dog.

lmao that's funny laugh.gif
Merkava
it runs perfectly on my XP / 98 laptop

Give it a try smile.gif
tem
QUOTE (Merkava @ Apr 15 2003, 19:40)
it runs perfectly on my XP / 98 laptop

Give it a try smile.gif

aol? longhorn? blink.gif
moocpu
yeh, well...i just wanted to get it to work on aol
i tryed hawaii, but it crashed so...i geuss ill etheir wait for
the next build or...maybe someone else has some details
...i already installed my mode so its aol...
which will work with broadband, or the actiontec home dsl modem??
Phonics Monkey
Word to the wise... A "normal" internet connection does not require you to install a huge(or any) application just to connect to it. AOL is a complete nuisance because they are not (never have & never will be) a normal internet connection, & don't use any of the normal connection protocols which is why there Email (which typically gets forwarded 19000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
0 times) tends to really piss people off trying to open the friggin things. Most stress management classes recommend you simply delete any email that comes from an AOL user for (health) safety sake.

Frankly I think they should be sued for advertizeing themselves as an Internet Service Provider, because there not, their nothing more than a dialup proxy service.

Did I mention I was in a bad mood? Carry on...
virtualraider
AOl aol aol , If your on AOL you need to get off dude, Ccareful it might suck you rite in too the wall. tongue.gif
jono3000
aol 6 works ive used it on longhorn
tem
QUOTE (jono3000 @ Apr 16 2003, 02:50)
aol 6 works ive used it on longhorn

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homiebrah
QUOTE (Phonics Monkey @ Apr 15 2003, 19:25)
Word to the wise... A "normal" internet connection does not require you to install a huge(or any) application just to connect to it. AOL is a complete nuisance because they are not (never have & never will be) a normal internet connection, & don't use any of the normal connection protocols which is why there Email (which typically gets forwarded 19000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
0 times) tends to really piss people off trying to open the friggin things. Most stress management classes recommend you simply delete any email that comes from an AOL user for (health) safety sake.

Frankly I think they should be sued for advertizeing themselves as an Internet Service Provider, because there not, their nothing more than a dialup proxy service.

Did I mention I was in a bad mood? Carry on...

Now., now, Monkey, tells us how you really feel. tongue.gif tongue.gif

As for AOLers, they are just lost is all. They got sucked into the same zone that Microsoft users did. AOL had a good teacher. Offer something to the user that has no competition, and they will gladly jump in head first. Once in, there's no coming back. As for offering broadband access, now people can quickly connect just to hear they've got mail. AOL Broadband...a true oxymoron.

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Morpheus Phreak
guys he came on here for help

So stuff it on the comments about his ISP choice please.

for those of you who did make the comments I will start following your threads, and just perhaps might start making the same types of comments if I see that you have a made a choice of some kind that I dont like regarding computers, net, games, cars, and anything else you can think of.
Morpheus Phreak
QUOTE (Phonics Monkey @ Apr 15 2003, 21:25)
Word to the wise... A "normal" internet connection does not require you to install a huge(or any) application just to connect to it. AOL is a complete nuisance because they are not (never have & never will be) a normal internet connection, & don't use any of the normal connection protocols which is why there Email (which typically gets forwarded 19000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
0 times) tends to really piss people off trying to open the friggin things. Most stress management classes recommend you simply delete any email that comes from an AOL user for (health) safety sake.

Frankly I think they should be sued for advertizeing themselves as an Internet Service Provider, because there not, their nothing more than a dialup proxy service.

Did I mention I was in a bad mood? Carry on...

AOL uses the common TCP/IP stack as does almost every other ISP

so what are you on about?

one thing you most likely dont realize about aol is that you dont have to use their software really if you dont wish to.

For the starting connection yes you do have to load their program.......then once connected you can just minimize and ignore it.

I used to be stuck with AOL dialup service because where I lived there wasnt any alternative that was better than the free year that I had with them.

So I used it and never had any of the headaches described by most people.....most of whom dont even use AOL to begin with.

Its like this........I heard this from my mothers brothers friends sisters cousin and it must be true. rolleyes.gif
Phonics Monkey
QUOTE (Morpheus Phreak @ Apr 16 2003, 14:25)
so what are you on about?

Well, if you read the original question, you'd know the guy asked what people thought about switching ISP's & for the sake of simplicity when playing with betas or trying to do anything serious dumping AOL is a good idea.

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AOL uses the common TCP/IP stack as does almost every other ISP
laugh.gif Wrong they install there own "propritary" TCP/IP stack which destroys any other network configuration the machine may have had. I tell clients point blank if anybody turns AOL loose on this network your warranty is void.

QUOTE
one thing you most likely dont realize about aol is that you dont have to use their software really if you dont wish to.

...really
QUOTE
For the starting connection yes you do have to load their program.......then once connected you can just minimize and ignore it.


Sure didn't take long to contradict your self there did it??? Let me bring you up to speed or whats actually required for a dialup internet connection to a normal ISP:
(1) username
(2) password
(3) phonenumber

Maybe, just maybe depending on how their servers are configured you'll need to know the IP of a DNS server, but under no circumstances do you ever, for any reason need to install a 40-100Mb application. Windows has all the other stuff installed already & it works just fine.

And don't even get me started on why AOL insists on reinventing the wheel every time it's find a modem time.
QUOTE
I used to be stuck with AOL dialup service because where I lived there wasnt any alternative that was better than the free year that I had with them.
Well... it is hard to argue with free, but netzero had a pretty good hack (um... i mean) service.

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So I used it and never had any of the headaches described by most people.....most of whom dont even use AOL to begin with.
...Holy shit you really are one in a million smile.gif

QUOTE
Its like this........I heard this from my mothers brothers friends sisters cousin and it must be true.  rolleyes.gif
No, actually I was there, saw it in person, helped the lucky ones to safety, & then told them what to put on the T-Shirt.

Now can we knock this dopy shit off & give the poor guy his thread back?
Morpheus Phreak
QUOTE (Phonics Monkey @ Apr 16 2003, 17:13)
QUOTE (Morpheus Phreak @ Apr 16 2003, 14:25)
so what are you on about?

Well, if you read the original question, you'd know the guy asked what people thought about switching ISP's & for the sake of simplicity when playing with betas or trying to do anything serious dumping AOL is a good idea.

QUOTE
AOL uses the common TCP/IP stack as does almost every other ISP
laugh.gif Wrong they install there own "propritary" TCP/IP stack which destroys any other network configuration the machine may have had. I tell clients point blank if anybody turns AOL loose on this network your warranty is void.

QUOTE
one thing you most likely dont realize about aol is that you dont have to use their software really if you dont wish to.

...really
QUOTE
For the starting connection yes you do have to load their program.......then once connected you can just minimize and ignore it.


Sure didn't take long to contradict your self there did it??? Let me bring you up to speed or whats actually required for a dialup internet connection to a normal ISP:
(1) username
(2) password
(3) phonenumber

Maybe, just maybe depending on how their servers are configured you'll need to know the IP of a DNS server, but under no circumstances do you ever, for any reason need to install a 40-100Mb application. Windows has all the other stuff installed already & it works just fine.

And don't even get me started on why AOL insists on reinventing the wheel every time it's find a modem time.
QUOTE
I used to be stuck with AOL dialup service because where I lived there wasnt any alternative that was better than the free year that I had with them.
Well... it is hard to argue with free, but netzero had a pretty good hack (um... i mean) service.

QUOTE
So I used it and never had any of the headaches described by most people.....most of whom dont even use AOL to begin with.
...Holy shit you really are one in a million smile.gif

QUOTE
Its like this........I heard this from my mothers brothers friends sisters cousin and it must be true.  rolleyes.gif
No, actually I was there, saw it in person, helped the lucky ones to safety, & then told them what to put on the T-Shirt.

Now can we knock this dopy shit off & give the poor guy his thread back?

I did read the original question

I was saying that his main point was that AOL wasnt working properly with longhorn and its a longhorn problem not an AOL problem.

and once again you are wrong. I used to use AOL. I had a dialup connection to 3 different ISP's including AOL and a cable connection.....extreme redundancy back when I worked on Driverheaven.

It didnt affect any other one of my network connections whatsoever.....so perty perty please tell me again how it destroys the TCP/IP stack *rolls eyes*

As for their software I was referring to the browser side of things.....not the connection screen....as in you dont have to use it.....not that you dont have to load it.....perhaps you need a lesson in proper english grammar? (Did I ever mention that I also know quite a bit of latin, greek, celtic, and hebrew? Not to mention the fact that I can read Middle English, which happens to be what the original Canterbury Tales were written in.)

So no contradiction as you said.

As for what is normally required for a dialup connection to an ISP, can anyone say, "No shit, Sherlock!"

I have had a modem since there were 2400baud modems around (Heck I might even have a slower one lying around). How fast was your first modem? The reason I am asking is because you say that AOL insists on reinventing the wheel everytime it's find a modem time. That is not what AOL is doing. They want to know exactly what modem you have, so they can optimize for your connection so that you have faster net speeds, and anyone who has a slow modem knows just how important optimization of data is.

As far as other dialup services, when I lived in Eastern Oregon there were no free services in my local dialing area. So for me, it was AOL or nada.

So my question is this once more.

So what are you going on about?
homiebrah
QUOTE (Morpheus Phreak @ Apr 16 2003, 10:20)
guys he came on here for help

So stuff it on the comments about his ISP choice please.

for those of you who did make the comments I will start following your threads, and just perhaps might start making the same types of comments if I see that you have a made a choice of some kind that I dont like regarding computers, net, games, cars, and anything else you can think of.

Never mind, it's not worth the time and effort.
Big Booger
I think everyone hates AOL.. some are just trapped.. they got that free disk in the mail, and now they can't get rid of it like the 7 year itch.. hehehe

I was just pulling his pud...

I think this question has been resolved.. simply use the older AOL version of software, or get a new ISP.
Phonics Monkey
Longhorns problem huh? Wrong AOL has had to change their mess every time there is a new version for no good reason other that they won't just use what is already provided, no matter how many time they have been caught screwing up. A normal internet connection can be used on any platform (not version planform) with out having to wait & wait & wait for some fool to unbork what they shouldn't have screwed with in the first place.

Okay so you used to use AOL (let's all notice you didn't say you still use it...), thats nice... I used to pick my nose & shit my pants but then I turned 2 etc. etc. however I don't bring it up and show such pride in it. I've run speed benchmarks on a test machine between AOL & a normal ISP & AOL's crunchy force fed TCP/IP & network adapters did indeed slow the connection down by almost 2KB in multiple tests.

How does it destroy the TCP/IP stack (well fuck i don't know) go lookup why they got sued for v5 ( & v6 )... and their still playing the same silly games.

Your talking "browsers", in responce to my (original) coment about the connection fiasco? And what kind of pedantic horse shit is quiping off how many launguages you speak? ...like I fucking care...

So yourst modem was 2400baud, I'm to be impressed by that why? My first modems speed...hell I don't remember, you (according to your profile) were born in 1981...My son was born in 1979 so you figure it out Ay.

As far as AOL optimizing the modem, shit I haven't seen them identify one right yet so how the hell can they be optimizing them.

Now as far as going on about any thing, my original intent was only to provide my opinion which had been asked for indirectly in the interest of being helpfull. Granted I had a bit of fun with it but I was in a rather odd mood & ment nothing ill.

So as I said before let's give this guy his thread back, & thats the last thing I have to say on the matter.
tem
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homiebrah
QUOTE (tem @ Apr 17 2003, 03:01)
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Well put...

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Q. Tews
I can remember my first modem was 300 baud on a Commodore PET ( if anyone remembers that particular box biggrin.gif )
As far as AOL... I pitty the fool... is for the no brianer... Ive used so many different ISP's I've lost count. It seems that I have the need for speed... So now I have a microwave connection to a T3 line...expensive... YES... is it worth it.... oh Yeah!! banana.gif

The bottom line is if you're satisfied with your ISP stick with it, however just remember there are alternatives!!!
tem
QUOTE (homiebrah @ Apr 17 2003, 07:19)
QUOTE (tem @ Apr 17 2003, 03:01)
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Well put...

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rofl :D
Morpheus Phreak
QUOTE (Phonics Monkey @ Apr 16 2003, 22:17)
Longhorns problem huh? Wrong AOL has had to change their mess every time there is a new version for no good reason other that they won't just use what is already provided, no matter how many time they have been caught screwing up. A normal internet connection can be used on any platform (not version planform) with out having to wait & wait & wait for some fool to unbork what they shouldn't have screwed with in the first place.

Okay so you used to use AOL (let's all notice you didn't say you still use it...), thats nice... I used to pick my nose & shit my pants but then I turned 2 etc. etc. however I don't bring it up and show such pride in it. I've run speed benchmarks on a test machine between AOL & a normal ISP & AOL's crunchy force fed TCP/IP & network adapters did indeed slow the connection down by almost 2KB in multiple tests.

How does it destroy the TCP/IP stack (well fuck i don't know) go lookup why they got sued for v5 ( & v6 )... and their still playing the same silly games.

Your talking "browsers", in responce to my (original) coment about the connection fiasco? And what kind of pedantic horse shit is quiping off how many launguages you speak? ...like I fucking care...

So yourst modem was 2400baud, I'm to be impressed by that why? My first modems speed...hell I don't remember, you (according to your profile) were born in 1981...My son was born in 1979 so you figure it out Ay.

As far as AOL optimizing the modem, shit I haven't seen them identify one right yet so how the hell can they be optimizing them.

Now as far as going on about any thing, my original intent was only to provide my opinion which had been asked for indirectly in the interest of being helpfull. Granted I had a bit of fun with it but I was in a rather odd mood & ment nothing ill.

So as I said before let's give this guy his thread back, & thats the last thing I have to say on the matter.

Yup I did say used to use AOL....I used it and was a beta tester for 8.0.

Matter of fact I only stopped using it about may of last year and they are still in version 8.0 so nothing has really changed since I last used it. The reason for that being my free year was up, and all of my relatives that had been using my account for their dialup access decided to go broadband. The connection wasnt needed, and I wasnt really using any of AOL's features other than the chat anymore.

I never said that I speak all of those languages. I was saying that I know all of those languages as many of them are the basis for the english language therefore I have a better grasp of verbal subtexts.

The reason for me mentioning my first modem speed was to show that I have been using networks for quite some time, and know just exactly what the hell I am talking about.

I never said that AOL optimizes the modem. I said that AOL detects the modem in order to optimize for it. In other words how to best use the bandwidth that it has for a faster connection. Not to mention that I never said that AOL doesnt install their own TCP/IP protocol drivers. I said that the one they use is basically the same as every other one that every ISP uses.
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