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QUOTE (Morpheus Phreak @ Apr 16 2003, 14:25)
so what are you on about?
Well, if you read the original question, you'd know the guy asked what people thought about switching ISP's & for the sake of simplicity when playing with betas or trying to do anything serious dumping AOL is a good idea.
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AOL uses the common TCP/IP stack as does almost every other ISP

Wrong they install there own "propritary" TCP/IP stack which destroys any other network configuration the machine may have had. I tell clients point blank if anybody turns AOL loose on this network your warranty is void.
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one thing you most likely dont realize about aol is that you dont have to use their software really if you dont wish to.
...really
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For the starting connection yes you do have to load their program.......then once connected you can just minimize and ignore it.
Sure didn't take long to contradict your self there did it??? Let me bring you up to speed or whats actually required for a dialup internet connection to a normal ISP:
(1) username
(2) password
(3) phonenumber
Maybe, just maybe depending on how their servers are configured you'll need to know the IP of a DNS server, but under no circumstances do you ever, for any reason need to install a 40-100Mb application. Windows has all the other stuff installed already & it works just fine.
And don't even get me started on why AOL insists on reinventing the wheel every time it's find a modem time.
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I used to be stuck with AOL dialup service because where I lived there wasnt any alternative that was better than the free year that I had with them.
Well... it is hard to argue with free, but netzero had a pretty good hack (um... i mean) service.
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So I used it and never had any of the headaches described by most people.....most of whom dont even use AOL to begin with.
...Holy shit you really are one in a million

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Its like this........I heard this from my mothers brothers friends sisters cousin and it must be true.

No, actually I was there, saw it in person, helped the lucky ones to safety, & then told them what to put on the T-Shirt.
Now can we knock this dopy shit off & give the poor guy his thread back?
I did read the original question
I was saying that his main point was that AOL wasnt working properly with longhorn and its a longhorn problem not an AOL problem.
and once again you are wrong. I used to use AOL. I had a dialup connection to 3 different ISP's including AOL and a cable connection.....extreme redundancy back when I worked on Driverheaven.
It didnt affect any other one of my network connections whatsoever.....so perty perty please tell me again how it destroys the TCP/IP stack *rolls eyes*
As for their software I was referring to the browser side of things.....not the connection screen....as in you dont have to use it.....not that you dont have to load it.....perhaps you need a lesson in proper english grammar? (Did I ever mention that I also know quite a bit of latin, greek, celtic, and hebrew? Not to mention the fact that I can read Middle English, which happens to be what the original Canterbury Tales were written in.)
So no contradiction as you said.
As for what is normally required for a dialup connection to an ISP, can anyone say, "No shit, Sherlock!"
I have had a modem since there were 2400baud modems around (Heck I might even have a slower one lying around). How fast was your first modem? The reason I am asking is because you say that AOL insists on reinventing the wheel everytime it's find a modem time. That is not what AOL is doing. They want to know exactly what modem you have, so they can optimize for your connection so that you have faster net speeds, and anyone who has a slow modem knows just how important optimization of data is.
As far as other dialup services, when I lived in Eastern Oregon there were no free services in my local dialing area. So for me, it was AOL or nada.
So my question is this once more.
So what are you going on about?