Sinbad
Feb 14 2006, 17:04
Currently only SSE3 supported, and DVD is almost finished. More news as I find it.
Free the apple!
Quactaur
Feb 14 2006, 17:23
Saw this on osx86project. Sounds really exciting; gonna wait for macvidia/sse2 support first!
Sinbad
Feb 14 2006, 17:33
SSE2 should be soon. Macvidia I wouldn't hold my breath. There hasn't been any releases from them since 10.4.1.
Quactaur
Feb 14 2006, 17:49
@sinbad: I know

But they were going to do an update to 4.3, maybe they'll hurry it up..
Ah well, when the power macs come out they'll have to make some nvidia drivers anyway.
Sinbad
Feb 14 2006, 18:11
QUOTE(Quactaur @ Feb 14 2006, 12:49)

@sinbad: I know

But they were going to do an update to 4.3, maybe they'll hurry it up..
Ah well, when the power macs come out they'll have to make some nvidia drivers anyway.
Not necessarily, they might just stick with ATI cards, as the Macbooks and iMacs have.
Xenokira
Feb 14 2006, 18:12
This is really cool! I just kind of figured they wouldn't be able to get passed the EFI and the project would slowly lose interest... I'm really excited.
Quactaur
Feb 14 2006, 21:53
Aww sheeet:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry587196212Still, its not as big a change as 4.4 was with efi and the dont-steal-osx kexts; shouldn't take as long as 4.4 to crack.
Lol, apple keeps the community busy
Xenokira
Feb 15 2006, 07:06
Now that 10.4.4 has been cracked, I wonder how long it'll take for 10.4.5? Couldn't be too long, the hard part was getting around EFI, so now that its been bypassed, it should be quick & easy
Sinbad
Feb 15 2006, 07:30
QUOTE(Xenokira @ Feb 15 2006, 02:06)

Now that 10.4.4 has been cracked, I wonder how long it'll take for 10.4.5? Couldn't be too long, the hard part was getting around EFI, so now that its been bypassed, it should be quick & easy

Hm. Not quite. There is really 2 hard parts to get by. EFI was the first. Second is the fact that system binaries (dock, gui, etc) are all encrypted. Maxxuss has decrypted them for 10.4.4, and gotten the system to not look for those calls, but his kernel still needs work so nothing is quite ready and working yet.
10.4.5 changed all these files, so they will need to be redecrypted, which isn't exactly easy.
What really is needed a way to emulate TPM to decrypt the binaries on the fly. This is currently in the planning stages as far as I know. I'm not on any of the dev teams, so can't say for sure.
EFI has already been taken care of. Just injected 10.4.3 boot loader into 10.4.4.
This is all what I can gather from the forums.
Xenokira
Feb 15 2006, 07:47
QUOTE(Sinbad @ Feb 15 2006, 01:30)

QUOTE(Xenokira @ Feb 15 2006, 02:06)

Now that 10.4.4 has been cracked, I wonder how long it'll take for 10.4.5? Couldn't be too long, the hard part was getting around EFI, so now that its been bypassed, it should be quick & easy
Hm. Not quite. There is really 2 hard parts to get by. EFI was the first. Second is the fact that system binaries (dock, gui, etc) are all encrypted. Maxxuss has decrypted them for 10.4.4, and gotten the system to not look for those calls, but his kernel still needs work so nothing is quite ready and working yet.
10.4.5 changed all these files, so they will need to be redecrypted, which isn't exactly easy.
What really is needed a way to emulate TPM to decrypt the binaries on the fly. This is currently in the planning stages as far as I know. I'm not on any of the dev teams, so can't say for sure.
EFI has already been taken care of. Just injected 10.4.3 boot loader into 10.4.4.
This is all what I can gather from the forums.
ah, thanks. I didn't know that everything was encrypted. I was reading on osx86project and one of the users there had posted apple hasn't been focusing much on security since so many bugs need fixes yet. On top of that, I wonder how the non-mac community's interest will influence apple in the long run.
Quactaur
Feb 15 2006, 17:47
Seen the poem on the osx86project? its the key that the dontstealosx kext uses to verify its all genuine:
Your karma check for today:
There once was a user that whined
his existing OS was so blind,
he'd do better to pirate
an OS that ran great
but found his hardware declined.
Please don't steal Mac OS!
Really, that's way uncool.
© Apple Computer, Inc.
i lost my sunglasses
Feb 18 2006, 01:11
The OSX86project forums are down after being served with a DMCA violation.
Sinbad
Feb 18 2006, 01:54
win2osx I'm guessing are going through server changes, as the page currently just goes to a cpanel error site.
In other new, 10.4.4 SSE2 emulation, and AMD/Intel compatibility are finished. From Maxxuss, of course.
Xenokira
Feb 18 2006, 07:42
QUOTE(i lost my sunglasses @ Feb 17 2006, 19:11)

The OSX86project forums are down after being served with a DMCA violation.
damn...so it is...this is not good

well, its not like it'll really stop the community...just a bump in the road 'tis all.
i lost my sunglasses
Feb 19 2006, 02:26
forums are back up

a quick google search of "maxxuss" will take you to his home page where you can find patch updates and such when he releases them
DarkSoft
Feb 21 2006, 21:54
win2osx site is down, maxxuss site is down.. is IRC going to be the only way to get updates for this now?
i lost my sunglasses
Feb 22 2006, 00:38
QUOTE(DarkSoft @ Feb 21 2006, 16:54)

win2osx site is down, maxxuss site is down.. is IRC going to be the only way to get updates for this now?
not sure exactly why maxxuss' site went down, but hes searching for a new host, per his blog
I'm glad i saved his homepage to my harddisk. I had a feeling this would happen.
Sinbad
Feb 23 2006, 23:04
Interesting... win2osx IRC said it wasn't DMCA related...
Singh400
Feb 24 2006, 00:46
Mac OS X 10.4.5 for Intel CrackedQUOTE
Although Apple has attempted to prevent the Intel variant of its OS from installing on generic hardware, a patch surfaced on the Internet Thursday that enables Mac OS X 10.4.5 to work on non-Apple systems.
The update fixed several Intel-related bugs, but also added code to stop those trying to install it on regular PCs.
A hacker named Maxxuss
released the upgrade patch and plans to create a full 10.4.5 installation routine. Those who install Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware are unable to download updates directly from the company, so these patches are the only way to take advantage of the fixes made in each release. Maxxuss says some issues still remain, such as problems with DVD playback and iTunes on systems with AMD CPUs.
Have fun.
Sinbad
Feb 24 2006, 01:50
A 10.4.4 installable DVD patch is out, though a few reports of it not working, it is working for many people.
QUOTE(Singh400 @ Feb 24 2006, 01:46)

Mac OS X 10.4.5 for Intel CrackedQUOTE
Although Apple has attempted to prevent the Intel variant of its OS from installing on generic hardware, a patch surfaced on the Internet Thursday that enables Mac OS X 10.4.5 to work on non-Apple systems.
The update fixed several Intel-related bugs, but also added code to stop those trying to install it on regular PCs.
A hacker named Maxxuss
released the upgrade patch and plans to create a full 10.4.5 installation routine. Those who install Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware are unable to download updates directly from the company, so these patches are the only way to take advantage of the fixes made in each release. Maxxuss says some issues still remain, such as problems with DVD playback and iTunes on systems with AMD CPUs.
Have fun.
Lol, the man is a genius
Sinbad
Feb 24 2006, 15:37
Seriously. It's crazy for one person to know so much about programming kernels and shit like that. Even more so that he doesn't even have the kernel source to work with, just whatever is reverse engineered.
Singh400
Feb 24 2006, 17:00
Why doesn't Apple just hire him?
DarkSoft
Feb 24 2006, 18:10
So has anyone installed this? if so, how are the speeds?
I ask because when i installed 10.4.3 it was dog slow native but very fast (compared to native) in vmware
Sinbad
Feb 24 2006, 20:20
QUOTE(Singh400 @ Feb 24 2006, 12:00)

Why doesn't Apple just hire him?
Who knows, they may have tried.
@DarkSoft, 10.4.3 was pretty quick for me, and I here 10.4.4 is faster, while 10.4.5 is even more so.
DarkSoft
Feb 24 2006, 20:32
what are your system specs?
mine are:
AMD64 2800+ (no sse3)
nforce3 mobo k8n platinum 250GB
512 pc3200 ram
9800 pro
nic card was supported in 10.4.3
should i give this a go?
Jizzylax
Feb 24 2006, 21:01
QUOTE(DarkSoft @ Feb 24 2006, 15:32)

what are your system specs?
mine are:
AMD64 2800+ (no sse3)
nforce3 mobo k8n platinum 250GB
512 pc3200 ram
9800 pro
nic card was supported in 10.4.3
should i give this a go?
sure if you want .... no SSE3 might slow you down.
DarkSoft
Feb 24 2006, 21:03
Yeah, I am aware of the sse3 issue. But as I said, in vmware osx was usable, while NATIVE it was unbearable.

So I don't want to waste my time, i am not expecting a blazing fast install but i want it to be usable.
Singh400
Feb 24 2006, 22:32
QUOTE(Sinbad @ Feb 24 2006, 20:20)

QUOTE(Singh400 @ Feb 24 2006, 12:00)

Why doesn't Apple just hire him?
Who knows, they may have tried.
Actually, that makes sense. If they did try to hire him and he did take the job. Then he would have to stop his community "work".
believe it or not, the whole 'company hires a hacker because he's so good' thing is a complete crock of bullshit.
Xenokira
Feb 24 2006, 23:32
QUOTE(Fod @ Feb 24 2006, 17:13)

believe it or not, the whole 'company hires a hacker because he's so good' thing is a complete crock of bullshit.
How is that? Wouldn't it make sense to hire him to help prevent people like him from cracking newer versions?
Read an interesting article in PC Magazine (March 7, 2006) by John Dvorak in which he talks about how Apple could be, in the long run, looking to adopt Windows. Definately read the article...he talks about how it could be in Apple's interest to build their own GUI on top of the Windows core stuff...interesting, but I dunno. Anyone else read this?
QUOTE(Xenokira @ Feb 24 2006, 23:32)

QUOTE(Fod @ Feb 24 2006, 17:13)

believe it or not, the whole 'company hires a hacker because he's so good' thing is a complete crock of bullshit.
How is that? Wouldn't it make sense to hire him to help prevent people like him from cracking newer versions?
Read an interesting article in PC Magazine (March 7, 2006) by John Dvorak in which he talks about how Apple could be, in the long run, looking to adopt Windows. Definately read the article...he talks about how it could be in Apple's interest to build their own GUI on top of the Windows core stuff...interesting, but I dunno. Anyone else read this?
yes. and no, no, NO. we just won;t go there. please drop this, now. it's a pointless, stupid, fruitless excercise to even talk about the possibility of it. sure, OSX is pretty. sure, you could build a nice pretty interface over windows. but anyone who actually scratches the surface of OSX knows just what makes it so much better than windows. and i can assure you most wholeheartedly, its not a fucking GUI.
i lost my sunglasses
Feb 25 2006, 05:11
QUOTE(Fod @ Feb 24 2006, 18:57)

QUOTE(Xenokira @ Feb 24 2006, 23:32)

QUOTE(Fod @ Feb 24 2006, 17:13)

believe it or not, the whole 'company hires a hacker because he's so good' thing is a complete crock of bullshit.
How is that? Wouldn't it make sense to hire him to help prevent people like him from cracking newer versions?
Read an interesting article in PC Magazine (March 7, 2006) by John Dvorak in which he talks about how Apple could be, in the long run, looking to adopt Windows. Definately read the article...he talks about how it could be in Apple's interest to build their own GUI on top of the Windows core stuff...interesting, but I dunno. Anyone else read this?
yes. and no, no, NO. we just won;t go there. please drop this, now. it's a pointless, stupid, fruitless excercise to even talk about the possibility of it. sure, OSX is pretty. sure, you could build a nice pretty interface over windows. but anyone who actually scratches the surface of OSX knows just what makes it so much better than windows. and i can assure you most wholeheartedly, its not a fucking GUI.
and yet thats what people buy, the pretty interface.
Sinbad
Feb 25 2006, 09:34
Basically same system I have man. I'm not sure why it was so slow. Maybe you didn't delete the one that file that caused CPU usage to go to 100%.
DarkSoft
Feb 25 2006, 17:44
and what file would that be sinbad?
keep in mind that i reinstall os x 10.4.3 in vmware last night and it took only 13mins to finish.. but last time it took way longer native so right now i don't feel like trying. Any tips and pointers will be appreciated.
Finally got around to installing OS X again... currently reporting to you live from 10.4.5, AMD SSE2, CI/QE on X800XL AGP.

With CI/QE I can pretty much make this my main system. Problem I had before is I couldn't really watch movies without it, but now that's fixed so everything is good.
Except this mouse tearing.. need to fix that still.
regulator
Mar 2 2006, 06:16
I had a pretty weird problem whe I tried installing the cracked 10.4.4. I first installed it using my usb dvd-burner. It appeared to install fine, but after the reboot, the other hard drive I had in it which has Vista and XP on it took over and wanted to boot. So I took out that hard drive and tried again. I couldn't even get it to boot from the usb drive anymore. So I took my drive apart and installed it into the computer. Then it would boot fine from it again. When the install goes to the white screen with the apple a circle with a slash through it appears. When using the adcanced install that shows everything installing, it hangs on "Waiting for root device" and just keeps displaying that. I tried removing all unused cards and everything but I still get the error. So I put everything back the way it was and I still either get the white screen with the circle with slash through it or I don't boot from the usb drive. Any ideas? Everything seems to be compatible since it was installed fine the first time. Maybe I should just wait for the 10.4.5 cracked DVD to be released, I hear that shouldn't be very long.
Pi Is A Rational
Mar 2 2006, 09:16
I got 10.4.4 running but no Ethernet unless you guys know how to get Realtek RTL8319 OnBoard (not PCI) working on Mac OS X, it detects it but it won't connect
Use the kext from 10.4.3, the 10.4.4 ones are messed up apparently.
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