http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/17...q.ap/index.html

I highly doubt that Great Britain will allow him to be deployed to Iraq. I do have to say that I admire Prince William in a lot of ways. I think of him as an honest and upstanding individual who has a good head on his shoulders. He always seems to be doing something positive and from what I read, there is rarely anything bad about him mentioned; however his younger brother on the other hand....

I also think it was a pretty honorable thing for him to come out and say:



The thing that I admire about this quote the most is how he personalized it. He didn't say "The people of Britain" or "My people" or "My soldiers", he said it in a personal context that made me think that he considers himself an equal among his comrades. I strongly believe that whenever he becomes King of Great Britain, he will be a positive influence on both the people and Parliament as well. I would also like to say that he does his mother great justice by being the strong individual he is, and he doesn't appear to be conceded in my eyes and I don't think I've ever read or seen him in any way shape or form place himself on a pedestal as if he was a higher individual than the next person.

I don't think I've heard a political figurehead yet that have said anything at all similar to this and anyone here can correct me if I'm wrong. It would be nice to hear Bush say something similar or Blair for that matter. Can you guys imagine if Prince William did somehow get deployed out there with his regiment and something tragic happened? The backlash would be overwhelming and have a highly negative impact on both parliament and congress IMHO.

It won't happen period. The government nor the Royal family would allow it. Maybe in the olden days yes, but not now. No way. I dread to think what would happen if the terriosts/milita/crazy people got hold of him.

BTW...

Prince Harry is the youngest son and is known as 'the bad'un'.
Prince William is the oldest one and is the more sensible one.

They both remind me of their mother, god bless her soul.

Yeah I was just thinking the same thing about both Harry and William and how their personalities are very similar to the late Princess Diana. You have Prince Harry who is known as like you said 'the bad'un', and you have Prince William who is like you said the more sensible one. However in Prince Harry's defense I do have to say that over the past year or so he has gotten a little better, but then again the royal family could be keeping close tabs on him and making sure he doesn't go out in public as much as he was.

I'll never forget that Nazi costume incident he did awhile back, that must have been extremely embarrassing for the Royal family (and Great Britain as a whole for that matter) and IMHO that was pretty tasteless on his part especially in regards to the violent history between Great Britain and Nazi Germany. I remember when I read all the articles when it went down I thought to myself, "What in the hell was he thinking?", but then again in his defense he was young and I know that when I was young I did some pretty illogical things that I am deeply ashamed of doing, one act of which was pretty dangerous and very racist. I did it as a joke similar to Prince Harry; however I was 14 at the time and looking back I don't find any humor in it at all now.

But back to the subject, the lads seem to have a lot of Princess Diana's personality traits. It is a shame and very tragic how her life ended. I'll never forget the night when the news broke. I woke up in the middle of the night to get a drink of water and I heard my parents (which this was about 12am at the time) in the living room still watching tv and that is very rare. I walk in the living room to find my mother crying and when I looked at the tv and saw the twisted wreck with the subtitles on the bottom claiming that Diana was killed.

Tragic indeed.

It wasn't that bad a situation as the media made it out to be. Harry wasn't out to insult anybody, it was a fancy dress party. To be fair, I thought it was rather brave of him to wear that Nazi uniform! I don't think Harry is bad, he is just portrayed as bad by the media to sell papers.

I too will never forget that night, everything stopped. I was only young then, but still I felt the loss as did the whole of the world.

To be honest, she was the only one of the Royal family I liked - her and her sons that is.

But back on topic. Like I said before it won't happen. Even if in the highly unlikely event that he is sent out to Iraq, he will be under heavy guard. And wouldn't be allowed to go anywhere on his own. Kind of feel sorry for him, he wants to help but he can't. After all he has endured at Sandhurst.

Another good point. In another thread I was just talking about how the media made me out to be a psychotic brat by overdoing and twisting the truth to make a 'good story'. I feel bad now thinking about what I said of Prince Harry. It was a costume party indeed, and you do have to give him credit for having the balls to do something like that. Like I stated in my last comment when I was 14 I did something I was ashamed of. My junior high was located in a bad part of the city and it was in an area where the majority of the residents were African-American. Well my best friend Tony and I were walking home from school one day and he had this dog chain/leash around his neck hanging down in front of him like a neck tie. Well, while we were walking there were some gang-bangers out and some other Black people, some of them kids playing, some of them just people doing their lawns etc or just sitting on the porch etc. Well the gang-bangers started making fun of him and I calling us names and shit, because we were "freaks" at this point in our lives (the phase where a lot of us were trying to find out who were were bla bla bla) and a lot of people were either scared or ridiculed us because of how we dressed. Well anyways I got some balls (mainly cause I was just pissed off and tired of being made fun of) and I decided it would be a great idea to go ahead and grab Tony's chain and life it high in the air as if he was hanging and yelled out at the top of my lungs, "HEY LOOK! I'M IN THE KKK!!!"

Big mistake. Luckily the kids that were outside playing either didn't hear me or understand what I said. However, everyone else did and the gang-bangers came running after us. We ran for blocks and resorted to having to go through peoples' backyards and jump fences. I still wonder how the hell Tony was able to jump them easily with that long chain hanging from his neck, you would think he would have gotten it caught on something.

Tony, who has a racial sense of humor (not really a racist but likes the jokes and such, but has sympathy and sensitivity towards certain situations), looked at me and said, "Dude....that wasn't even funny...that was just fucked up....I can't believe you did that....it took balls...don't ever do that again when I'm around, I'm not going to get killed because of you being stupid."

back on topic...

yeah, i think it sucks that Prince William wants to fight along side "his boys" for his country and they won't allow him to do so, but what can you do? There are things that we are not allowed to do, but he is, so I guess every side to everything in life has its ups and downs and so-called privileges.

Bah, do we need more troops in Iraq? Especially royal ones? "fight for my country" , yeah right, like he would make a difference. Try diplomacy dumbass.

heh...

He can try that all he really wants to; however the royal family is only a symbol in the UK and doesn't have much of a political influence over parliament, if you want to talk about diplomacy...than you would want to target that "dumb ass" comment at someone like Tony Blair.

Actually, the UK are planning to reduce their number of troops in southern Iraq. But, to get to the point, who gives a shit about that prince whatever, there are real problems out there. Get a life, folks. I couldn't care less.

for fuck sakes...I was so high on painkillers for the entire fucking time I thought prince william was going to iraq not harry!

fuck!

Thats what I tried to point out (kindly) in my first reply.

Yeah I reread the whole thread today and then caught you trying to hint at me, but I just went on and on, and thankfully you guys figured that I had my names switched. LOL...wow...I was higher than I thought I was.

well it looks like Harry isn't going to be deployed after all:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/20/...oops/index.html


it looks like the UK is going to begin withdrawals in the upcoming weeks. figure that one out.

Wasn't expecting that!

wtf mate?

It's probably to prove that Tony Blair hasn't reached a new all-time level of the phrase "bending the truth" when he said "the time has come to pull back the troops, because British operations were succesful"

So they can show us: look how safe it is, we are sending Harry in

I find this whole entire thing just wrong. I mean just two days ago they publicly release a statement saying that they are going ahead to start pulling troops out to where they will be in a full withdrawal by the end of 2007; however now they are going ahead to send Prince Harry out there? That doesn't make much sense to me, but it could be like you said K2, they probably want to show the public that things are "safe" and that the UK is a little more successful in this matter compared to the states.

Yet, from what I've read from various news sources (excluding U.S. for biased reasons), things are not safe out in Iraq at all. In fact ever since Bush released his proposal to the public audience about how he wants to send even more troops out there and refuses to pull out (like a typical man hehehe *wink *wink) violence has drastically increased where hundreds of innocents have died due to various violent tactics from terrorist factions.

Was you by any chance a part of Question Times audience tonight? A guy said the exact same thing on there.

Ah, just as in the old times, when the kings and nobles battled at the front of their armies.

Yeah, but I still say this is a bad move. I think I read something somewhere that there are people in the Royal Army that coined the nickname for him to be "Bullet Magnet".

if that doesn't tell you something that raises a red flag, then I don't know what will be a more sufficient warning then.

Hmm.... was he good looking, very smart and well spoken? Then yeah, why not, I was there!

Well he was wearing a bright yellow top....