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Man1k3n
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Yesterday on his radio show, right-wing host Rush Limbaugh derided Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) — who is biracial — for saying, “If you look African-American in this society, you’re treated as an African-American.”

Limbaugh claimed that this statement meant Obama didn’t want to be black and should “renounce it”: “If it’s not something you want to be, if you didn’t decide it, renounce it, become white!” He added, “If you don’t like it, you can switch. Well, that’s the way I see it. He’s got 50-50 in there. Say, ‘No, I’m white.’” Listen here:

The right wing has repeatedly thrown baseless racial slurs at Obama. Earlier in the week, right-wing radio host Glenn Beck said that Obama “is colorless,” and that “as a white guy…[y]ou don’t notice that he is black. So he might as well be white, you know what I mean?”

Transcript:

LIMBAUGH: Steve Kroft said, “Your mother was white; your father was African. You were raised in a white household. Yet at some point you decided you were black.”

[OBAMA CLIP]: I’m not sure I decided it. Uh, I think, uh, you know, if you — if you look African-American in this society, you’re treated as an African-American, uh, and, uh, when you’re a child in particular, uh, that is how you begin to identify yourself.

RUSH: So are we to conclude here that he didn’t define himself as black, that the way he looks does? (Sigh.) Okay. We’ve got Obama’s wife in here. We’ve got John Howard from Australia coming up, but, “I’m not sure I decided it”? Well, if you didn’t decide it, then how did it happen?

Well, when you look like that, that’s what you are.

Well, renounce it, then! If it’s not something you want to be, if you didn’t decide it, renounce it, become white!

RUSH: Okay, back to our Barack Obama Audio Sound Bite Marathon. What are we up to now? Let’s see. Oh, yeah. Obama just said he wasn’t sure that he decided he was black, that if you look African-American in this society, you’re treated as an African-American, and when you’re a child in particular that’s how you begin to identify yourself. If you don’t like it, you can switch. Well, that’s the way I see it. He’s got 50-50 in there. Say, “No, I’m white.”


for article:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/14/limbaugh-obama-white/

to listen to Limbaugh making these comments:
http://websrvr80il.audiovideoweb.com/il80w...7/rushobama.mp4

I really get a kick out of the fact that there are people that actually listen to Limbaugh and actually agree with what the man says from time to time. Okay we are talking about a guy that got a slap on the wrist for his brush with the law during his whole pill popping scandal.

Anyways...

I don't know if you guys agree with I'm about to say, but Obama is right IMHO. If you look African-American you are viewed and labeled as such. If you look White, Mexican, Muslim, Asian, you are labeled as that ethnicity by society. You can't simply just take a step back and say that you're something else...well you can, but it still doesn't stick and people still disagree and go on categorizing you to be a part of that specific group.

For example I'm half Mexican and half Polish. My last name is clearly Hispanic; however my skin color is white. I've always identified myself to being Mexican, but by the Hispanic community as well as society as a whole I'm seen as white plain and simple. Off topic...I also think its sad that when I fill out a job application and I put down that I'm Hispanic I don't get a call back, but when I put down that I'm white of non-Hispanic origin then they call be back for an interview...back on topic.

You can even go ahead and use Asians as another great example. Someone can say, "Chen is Chinese", but Chen looks at that person and says, "I'm not Chinese, I'm Vietnamese". Yet when people will still lable him as Chinese or simply Asian in particular.

Another great example would be taking a man or woman of Middle-Eastern decent. Now lets say that this individual is not Muslim but Christian and was born in America. Because the way so many ignorant people are in society:

1) The Individual would not be seen as a Christian but as a Muslim
2) Wouldn't be considered an American Citizen persay, but unfortunately would be thought of as an immigrant.

They can go ahead and say that they are neither of the two, but still society would view them otherwise. Same thing with Mexicans. What bothers me personally about society and their negative view on Mexicans is that even if they were born and raised in the U.S. the majority of them are viewed as immigrants that crossed the boarder. My grandfather had a hard time growing up when he was a kid and would tell me that so many people thought he was a "wet-back" as he would say (sorry for the racial slur, I'm just quoting what he said), and no one would believe him that he was born and raised in Texas.

Now back to Obama. He looks African-American to me as does he to the rest of society. I view him as an African-American, not as a white man (I'm sorry). Now if Limbaugh was indeed correct, then lets say we had a time machine and then sent Obama to Alabama lets say...ohhh. in the year 1954. Now, what would happen if Mr. Obama walked into a 'white's only" restaurant and sat down at the counter? We all know what would happen guys, and Obama could say he is white all he wants, but he would still be viewed as African-American.

Even in today's society he can say hes white until hes blue in the face, but everyone will always view him as African-American. No one can go ahead and renounce what they are viewed as and say they are something else and expect everyone else in the whole wide world to actually adhere to that notion.

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If you don’t like it, you can switch.


I even had a friend years ago that had a white mother and an African-American father, but he actually has white skin. He would try and try again to tell people that he was African-American but no one agreed with him except the very few (including myself) that actually knew of his family origins. He wasn't even accepted by the African-American community that was outside of his family or that didn't know his family at all, they just viewed him as a white boy. Shit, you can take those kids that are fully white and renounce it and pretend that they are black all the time, but they are still considered white. You can't fucking switch laugh.gif

I'm sorry but its because of perspectives and ignorant mentalities such as this that causes the progress of American society to be slow and staggering.
Arctirus
I don't like being white anymore. Can I be asian?
dkreifus
Can I be latino? They got some kickin music
Brains
not very surprised that stupidity like that comes from Bush Bimbo's mouth...

some hold him in high regards, which I do not understand at all.
Man1k3n
QUOTE(Brains @ Feb 22 2007, 22:45) *

not very surprised that stupidity like that comes from Bush Bimbo's mouth...

some hold him in high regards, which I do not understand at all.


like my political science teacher once said in regards to Limbaugh:

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Limbaugh is a highly opinionated individual who has little or no intelligence an basically says what he says in order to make people get angry. Most people think its utterly pointless to make people angry in regards to debating politics, which in most cases it is. The truth is with Limbaugh however is that the reason why he spews out the garbage he does is not because hes under the influence of various narcotics, but he wants to stir the pot enough to make enough people mad at him in order to get his name in the news and so that he can feel special about himself rather realizing that no one gives a shit whether hes alive or dead.


zapjb
Crack-bawh is a dimwitted drug addict. He never even voted before 1984. When he was thinking of ways to earn a living. It was between right wing talk show host & tele evangelist. He makes me sick. He makes w look smart. Both literally & figuratively.
Man1k3n
QUOTE(zapjb @ Feb 23 2007, 07:21) *

Crack-bawh is a dimwitted drug addict. He never even voted before 1984. When he was thinking of ways to earn a living. It was between right wing talk show host & tele evangelist. He makes me sick. He makes w look smart. Both literally & figuratively.


I just don't understand his demeanor or logic behind what he says. I mean does this guy actually think hes making a statement. Pretty much everything that comes out of his mouth is garbage.

For example:

Remember when he want on a tangent about Michael J. Fox faking his Parkinson's Disease?

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"He is exaggerating the effects of the disease," Limbaugh told listeners. "He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. . . . This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."


I mean thats just purely stupid simply because Fox had a promising career on a hit T.V. sitcom (Spin City) and had to abruptly leave the show due to his condition getting worse. The man was making good money and the show was a hit (I've watched all the reruns and I still get a good laugh out of them). So he leaves the show and pretty much ends his acting career at such a young age in order to fake a disease? Yeah that makes a lot of sense in that scope.

I remember Fox was very honorable in his reply. Some people would have gotten extremely pissed and would have verbally attacked the perpatrator for such a heinous statement; however Fox just joked and said that ironically he took too much of his medication that day lol.

The thing about Limbaugh is that he never reviews the facts before he goes ahead and says something about whatever he is talking about. He knows nothing about parkinson's disease. My grandmother has it for instance but she has only the first stages of it and luckily it hasn't progressed in the 20 years shes had it. Her head just shakes a little and the only time where it gets worse is when either shes stressed about something or pissed off/upset.

Once again, why would someone want to act out parkinson's? I mean, that is not a fun thing to act out and it is a difficult thing to act out as well. I had to act it out for an entire day for a class project. The class had to pick a disability of their choice and then had to act like that for an entire day in a serious manner without telling people that they were just doing it for school. Some people chose paralysis, others choosed early stages of M.S. to where they had to walk slow with a cane, some chose blindness, others chose being deaf, some of us (including myself) chose parkinson's. I tell you it is difficult to act out as well as very embarassing, because people who don't understand look at you as if you are on crack or something and treat you negatively. I actually was asked to leave a grocery store because I was making people uncomfortable. Now all I did was shake a little and walked a little funny, it wasn't like I was having a fucking seizure.

Chugworth
hmm... I don't count on the media to tell me what Rush says. They always tend to cut out a portion of what he says and spin it out of context. More than likely, he was "illustrating absurdity" based on something he had been talking about earlier. This whole "story" is not much of anything.
Man1k3n
QUOTE(Chugworth @ Feb 23 2007, 21:42) *

hmm... I don't count on the media to tell me what Rush says. They always tend to cut out a portion of what he says and spin it out of context. More than likely, he was "illustrating absurdity" based on something he had been talking about earlier. This whole "story" is not much of anything.



actually I can testify what he said is a fact, because I listened to clips of him saying this on his show on Howard Stern and they were discussing how he is just an all out numbskull.

Chugworth
QUOTE(Man1k3n @ Feb 23 2007, 17:40) *

QUOTE(Chugworth @ Feb 23 2007, 21:42) *

hmm... I don't count on the media to tell me what Rush says. They always tend to cut out a portion of what he says and spin it out of context. More than likely, he was "illustrating absurdity" based on something he had been talking about earlier. This whole "story" is not much of anything.



actually I can testify what he said is a fact, because I listened to clips of him saying this on his show on Howard Stern and they were discussing how he is just an all out numbskull.

That's no different than reading it in print. Again, they're just picking and choosing lines and excerpts that make their best Anti-Rush story. rolleyes.gif
Pr0digy
Barrack Obama: President 2008!!
Man1k3n
QUOTE(Pr0digy @ Feb 27 2007, 01:01) *

Barrack Obama: President 2008!!


I'm not so sure about him; however I still keep up on what hes doing and so far I like the guy and hope he succeeds and it seems like he very well just might.
raum
Barack Obama, is a fictional invention of Barry Hussein. He was not disadvantaged; He is and has been raised by his white mother's family. He went to private school, and used his Kenyan father as a means to try and gain popularity with the minority voters.

Even worse, when he "done be tawkin like dem foke in Alabama" he did no service to his good ideas.

And he does have some good ideas... but i would take McCain over him.

Still, Obama over Hillary, for the Dem primary is alright by me.
dkreifus
I've never been a fan of voting by party, which is why I don't register as a Dem, Ind, or Rep. But at this point in time, the ONLY thing that could make me CONSIDER voting for the republican candidate is if Rudy G. was the candidate or the Democrats somehow got Al Sharpton as their candidate.

Imagine....Limbaugh vs. Sharpton.... or even better.. J. Bush vs. Sharpton
Chugworth
QUOTE(dkreifus @ Mar 20 2007, 16:22) *
Imagine....Limbaugh vs. Sharpton.... or even better.. J. Bush vs. Sharpton

Heh, over the years lots of people have asked Rush to run for president. But he always responds that he doesn't want to take the pay cut. biggrin.gif
Pr0digy
QUOTE(Chugworth @ Mar 20 2007, 16:05) *

QUOTE(dkreifus @ Mar 20 2007, 16:22) *
Imagine....Limbaugh vs. Sharpton.... or even better.. J. Bush vs. Sharpton

Heh, over the years lots of people have asked Rush to run for president. But he always responds that he doesn't want to take the pay cut. biggrin.gif


I think he can manage. Plus, just the shit that goes along with being president. I can take a pay cut, if I was him, just to get my food, transportation, and everything else paid for. Plus, the retirement is fucking awesome.
Man1k3n
QUOTE(Pr0digy @ Mar 23 2007, 00:54) *

QUOTE(Chugworth @ Mar 20 2007, 16:05) *

QUOTE(dkreifus @ Mar 20 2007, 16:22) *
Imagine....Limbaugh vs. Sharpton.... or even better.. J. Bush vs. Sharpton

Heh, over the years lots of people have asked Rush to run for president. But he always responds that he doesn't want to take the pay cut. biggrin.gif


I think he can manage. Plus, just the shit that goes along with being president. I can take a pay cut, if I was him, just to get my food, transportation, and everything else paid for. Plus, the retirement is fucking awesome.


still would be a big pay cut for the hypocritical fuck. I mean, how is he going to pay for his oxycontin?

Candyman
How can so many people miss the point that Limbaugh was being facetious? I've listened to Rush off and on for 16 years and unless you know how he uses sarcasm and "highlighting the absurd by being absurd" as his way of getting his idea or thought across, you totally miss what he is trying to say. Don't always agree with him but I can see his point in regards to this subject.
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