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adamj

Jun 12 2007, 22:56

QUOTE

Bill would require pharmacies to fill orders no matter beliefs
Monday, June 11, 2007

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) A pharmacy would be required to fill prescriptions for any drug it stocks such as birth-control pills regardless of a pharmacist's moral beliefs under a bill that cleared the Legislature on Monday.

The bill, approved 56-18 by the Assembly, establishes a pharmacy's duty to fill lawful prescriptions without undue delay and without consideration for a pharmacist's moral, philosophical or religious beliefs.

If a pharmacy doesn't have a prescription in stock, the pharmacy would have to either obtain it under expedited ordering or find a nearby pharmacy to fill the prescription.

The bill was approved by the Senate in June 2006 and goes to Gov. Jon S. Corzine for his signature.
(Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Source: http://wcbstv.com/newjerseywire/NJ-BRF--Ph...urces_news_html

We've talked about this before, I believe. Let me recap though: Some feel this type of contraception is akin to abortion, even distantly. Some feel and type of contraception is wrong (sinful, immoral?). Others feel its a 'womans prerogative' and as a result, the pharmacist should fill whatever prescription given them them. Some feel the pharmacist, in this case, should be allowed to deny the prescription.

The little article there is self explanatory, looks like the pro-choicer's won on this round. All the bill needs is a signature and she'll be law. I'm pleased at this type of progress as if the same incident happens in other states, this can be a fine example.

Chugworth

Jun 13 2007, 02:32

I'm certainly against that bill. But not because of abortion though. It's just more government regulations and butting-in. You see, if pharmacist who is working for a company refuses to fill a prescription, then that's between them and their company. I'd fire their ass. But if the pharmacist is running their own business, then they can choose what they want to sell. Simple as that.

Phonics Monkey

Jun 13 2007, 11:03

QUOTE(Chugworth @ Jun 12 2007, 22:32)

That might be all fine and well on the surface, but if somebody dies because the pharmacist was prancing around on "Moral High-ground" ... Then the pharmacist should be indited for murder.

Freedom of religion/beliefs/opinion is a "Good Thing" right up until people start dieing ... then it needs to be tempered with a bit of common sense.

adamj

Jun 13 2007, 13:59

QUOTE(Chugworth @ Jun 13 2007, 02:32)

You're right chug. But when it comes down to that actually happening, the scenario phonics monkey pointed out is plausible.

Theres that, and really America is all about freedom with play-fair rules. Sometimes we just need those rules and regulations.

dkreifus

Jun 14 2007, 01:12

I am pleased to see this bill...
I must agree with Chug. A company can choose its policies for the medicines they carry. Not all pharmacies will have all medications in stock.

As for the theory about people dying. It's not really a rational thing to say. If a person requires medication that is life supporting, then odds are they've been going to a pharmacy that carries it. If they stop carrying it, they'll notify the person of this. If it is a new perscription, I'd be very hard pressed to believe a doctor would just perscribe a pill for someone, without giving them samples, or something to 'tide' them over.

And..a person taking pills should be responsible enough to get their perscriptions filled with reasonable amount of time.

As for pro-choice...not everyone takes birth control for just preventative reasons. There are proven effects of reducing the effects of PMS for women.

Anyway...long story short. State 1, Church 0

adamj

Jun 15 2007, 03:07

I think this issue might be bigger than business choice. Another hypothetical could be a gal in a small town, that doesn't have access to alternative pharmacy's - what are her options then? Only options could be emotionally devastating.

But the larger issue...

QUOTE

Oath of a Pharmacist

At this time, I vow to devote my professional life to the service of all humankind through the profession of pharmacy.

I will consider the welfare of humanity and relief of human suffering my primary concerns.

I will apply my knowledge, experience, and skills to the best of my ability to assure optimal drug therapy outcomes for the patients I serve.

I will keep abreast of developments and maintain professional competency in my profession of pharmacy.

I will maintain the highest principles of moral, ethical, and legal conduct.

I will embrace and advocate change in the profession of pharmacy that improves patient care.

I take these vows voluntarily with the full realization of the responsibility with which I am entrusted by the public.

Developed by the American Pharmaceutical Association Academy of Students of Pharmacy/American Association of Colleges of Pharmacy Council of Deans (APhA-ASP/AACP-COD) Task Force on Professionalism; June 26, 1994

The moral, ethical, and legal aspect comes into play. Legal carries more weight should this bill pass.

Anyway, i think it's obvious of the association between individuals who are pro-life to the point of making decisions for other people, and those who... well, aren't.

And as DK said, state prevailed - which realistically is a positive thing. It preserves more 'individual' freedom.

Man1k3n

Jul 8 2007, 02:52

i agree with the bill. In fact I hate to say it, but I just say go ahead and get rid of all perscriptions and make it all over the counter, and you'll see the weak ones just get weeded out so to speak. If someone od's on painkillers well thats their own fault, the only reason why all of this stuff is perscription in the first place is so that big pharmacutical companies can make money of the people who are really suffering from a condition...or are in a bind so to speak.

adamj

Jul 9 2007, 06:49

Here's a quote that follows what you said Man1k3n... Tell me who said it